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Kristin Melville's avatar

Carriger's analysis of the Heroine's Journey is so helpful, which goes to say I was SO excited to see you cover it! Perfect for the romantasy genre too

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Sieran Lane's avatar

Wow I love the Heroine's Journey! Thanks for sharing and showing this with Feyre too. I was actually thinking of Aelin from Throne of Glass, haha. Same principles! You know, this reminds me of something I learned in my psych courses. It said that with men, there's the stereotypical story of rising to the top and achieving success, which is fine. But with women, their stories weren't as linear and could be more circular (or spiralling?) in some cases, because relationships are a big thing, not just career success/ prowess. And as you know, relationships aren't linear.

Of course, men can also have narratives with relationships, so I don't think we should restrict it to the person's gender. But we're talking about social norms and beliefs, not about the individuals. I like how the Heroine's Journey here has a lot of focus on relationships. Family, found family and friends, the community and the people, etc. Rather than rivals/ enemies, allies, mentors, etc. that you typically find in a hero's journey. (Well the hero's journey is technically for any gender, not just male, but again, we're talking about gender role expectations, not literal individuals.)

I'm also nonbinary, used to be read as female and now read as male. So I have interesting feelings about the different gender narratives with hero's vs heroine's journey, haha. And as you know, my protagonist is also nonbinary. But in contrast to me, they were read as male before and now sometimes read as female by readers (but still misgendered in many ways.) But the point is that our gender identities don't fit neatly anywhere haha. I think I can see both the hero's and the heroine's journey in Anastasia. We can talk more in our next session! This is a fascinating topic. Thanks for writing this, Ivy!

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